1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:02,510 hi everybody I'm bill burns yeah nancy 2 00:00:07,670 --> 00:00:04,529 burns here I work in future theater and 3 00:00:14,030 --> 00:00:07,680 you know we like to listen to mm radio 4 00:00:15,470 --> 00:00:14,040 on sunday nights at 9pm 9pm what o.o the 5 00:00:18,290 --> 00:00:15,480 best network on the whole entire 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:18,300 internet inception radio network you're 7 00:01:07,440 --> 00:00:20,850 locked into inception radio network 8 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:11,490 that'll get rid of your radio goes to 9 00:01:24,630 --> 00:01:21,330 welcome folks to paying radio tonight is 10 00:01:26,340 --> 00:01:24,640 Sunday October 12 2014 thank you for the 11 00:01:27,750 --> 00:01:26,350 calendar on the corner of my computer 12 00:01:29,430 --> 00:01:27,760 for reminding me of that because i 13 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:29,440 looked up quicken like what day is it 14 00:01:33,870 --> 00:01:31,600 it's sunday welcome to paying radio 15 00:01:36,690 --> 00:01:33,880 tonight i'm here with my co-host Ken 16 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:36,700 Storch in tonight we have a kind of a 17 00:01:40,410 --> 00:01:37,810 special treat tonight we're going to 18 00:01:42,330 --> 00:01:40,420 have open lines so you can call in with 19 00:01:43,980 --> 00:01:42,340 really anything on your mind or 20 00:01:47,190 --> 00:01:43,990 something strange it happen to you I 21 00:01:48,870 --> 00:01:47,200 mean anyway from goes to UFOs or the 22 00:01:51,300 --> 00:01:48,880 floor is pretty much open you can call 23 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:51,310 in also through our skype if you add 24 00:01:56,700 --> 00:01:54,250 inception radio network one word you're 25 00:01:58,530 --> 00:01:56,710 able to watch for the add-on you can 26 00:01:59,700 --> 00:01:58,540 call us via skype if you're overseas and 27 00:02:02,100 --> 00:01:59,710 you want to talk about something so 28 00:02:04,469 --> 00:02:02,110 definitely like to chime in with our 29 00:02:06,930 --> 00:02:04,479 international listeners to got a lot 30 00:02:08,430 --> 00:02:06,940 over in England and my co-host Ken 31 00:02:11,430 --> 00:02:08,440 Storch is with me tonight good evening 32 00:02:13,770 --> 00:02:11,440 can hey thanks for having me on and good 33 00:02:16,110 --> 00:02:13,780 evening to our listeners and it's cold 34 00:02:18,690 --> 00:02:16,120 and wet here in northeast Oklahoma and 35 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:18,700 it's my kind of weather football weather 36 00:02:24,060 --> 00:02:21,970 there you go yeah we had a 65 degrees 37 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:24,070 almost today so it got really nice up 38 00:02:28,979 --> 00:02:25,570 here it's kind of I can tell this is our 39 00:02:30,900 --> 00:02:28,989 Indian summer here yeah absolutely hey I 40 00:02:32,370 --> 00:02:30,910 got a couple of shout outs to Aaron and 41 00:02:36,030 --> 00:02:32,380 Carrie I once again I know they're 42 00:02:38,550 --> 00:02:36,040 driving and listening and George and dug 43 00:02:40,110 --> 00:02:38,560 in Missouri I want to thank them for 44 00:02:45,890 --> 00:02:40,120 tuning in George how you doing big guy 45 00:02:48,660 --> 00:02:45,900 and to a couple of people in Colorado so 46 00:02:50,610 --> 00:02:48,670 welcome to paying radio inception radio 47 00:02:52,410 --> 00:02:50,620 network very cool and I have a shout out 48 00:02:54,330 --> 00:02:52,420 to my favorite listener again in Duluth 49 00:02:57,990 --> 00:02:54,340 debra anderson and we got a shout out 50 00:03:01,229 --> 00:02:58,000 from it looks like Martin Jackson he 51 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:01,239 listens to us in my Kron micronesia 52 00:03:05,490 --> 00:03:03,730 Lincoln UK so another UK listener 53 00:03:07,620 --> 00:03:05,500 chiming in on Facebook thanks for 54 00:03:08,910 --> 00:03:07,630 listening Martin and spread the word 55 00:03:10,259 --> 00:03:08,920 over there new cane we love you guys 56 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:10,269 over there because you're a big part of 57 00:03:14,030 --> 00:03:12,130 the network and you do support us and a 58 00:03:17,670 --> 00:03:14,040 lot of fun people and chat from the UK 59 00:03:20,430 --> 00:03:17,680 cool yeah thanks Bart for tuning in we 60 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:20,440 appreciate it so there are many ways to 61 00:03:23,940 --> 00:03:22,090 listen to the inception radio network 62 00:03:26,220 --> 00:03:23,950 got to go through this guy's to pay the 63 00:03:29,099 --> 00:03:26,230 bills you we do have our apps on the 64 00:03:31,860 --> 00:03:29,109 android and iphones you can also call in 65 00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:31,870 to our listen line at 4 01 28 36 66 00:03:40,649 --> 00:03:36,159 700 hit one for the regular irn feed hit 67 00:03:41,850 --> 00:03:40,659 22 content or to listen to i RN + + 0 to 68 00:03:45,149 --> 00:03:41,860 talk to the show host if you have a 69 00:03:47,070 --> 00:03:45,159 question for whoever's on the show at 70 00:03:48,180 --> 00:03:47,080 the moment so we definitely can listen 71 00:03:51,869 --> 00:03:48,190 to you there and there are numerous 72 00:03:53,460 --> 00:03:51,879 other apps like tunein radio lives 365 73 00:03:56,250 --> 00:03:53,470 you can listen to iron pretty much 74 00:03:59,039 --> 00:03:56,260 anywhere in a row roku box to apple TV 75 00:04:00,600 --> 00:03:59,049 we're everywhere so you can put us on in 76 00:04:02,250 --> 00:04:00,610 every room or out mowing the lawn or 77 00:04:06,479 --> 00:04:02,260 however you want to listen to us there's 78 00:04:07,860 --> 00:04:06,489 plenty of ways definitely so we got a 79 00:04:11,339 --> 00:04:07,870 great show tonight we're going to have 80 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:11,349 open lines the number would be 88 89 192 81 00:04:17,610 --> 00:04:14,530 355 if you have anything for can or i 82 00:04:18,930 --> 00:04:17,620 just call in and let us know what's on 83 00:04:21,029 --> 00:04:18,940 your mind or if you had something 84 00:04:24,540 --> 00:04:21,039 strange happen spotted an object in the 85 00:04:26,219 --> 00:04:24,550 sky had a strange shadow creature in 86 00:04:27,900 --> 00:04:26,229 your bedroom i mean there's a lot of 87 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:27,910 there's a lot of unknown out there and 88 00:04:32,460 --> 00:04:30,850 if you want to talk about it we'll do 89 00:04:33,930 --> 00:04:32,470 our best to while well we'll definitely 90 00:04:35,390 --> 00:04:33,940 listen to you and we'll do our best to 91 00:04:38,339 --> 00:04:35,400 figure out what the hell you seem 92 00:04:41,010 --> 00:04:38,349 definitely so ken is going to take over 93 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:41,020 for a little bit doc as we know ken does 94 00:04:47,610 --> 00:04:44,050 investigate animal harvesting cases and 95 00:04:48,810 --> 00:04:47,620 he's researching on a case right now but 96 00:04:50,940 --> 00:04:48,820 he was going to kind of go into it for 97 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:50,950 the listeners and let you guys know on 98 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:52,810 update us on some stuff so can take it 99 00:04:59,730 --> 00:04:57,090 away hey I want to thank Lorne for 100 00:05:02,100 --> 00:04:59,740 Senate I was not aware of this until 101 00:05:07,589 --> 00:05:02,110 just recently and she sent me a email 102 00:05:14,969 --> 00:05:07,599 and Lorna hunter is director of love Pig 103 00:05:17,700 --> 00:05:14,979 and there was a animal mutilation I you 104 00:05:21,180 --> 00:05:17,710 know MJ you called it animal harvesting 105 00:05:24,150 --> 00:05:21,190 and I think that's the preferred term 106 00:05:25,740 --> 00:05:24,160 that I that I use but in this case I'm I 107 00:05:27,990 --> 00:05:25,750 don't know a whole lot about it right 108 00:05:30,089 --> 00:05:28,000 now and and it happened in Utah and 109 00:05:33,029 --> 00:05:30,099 apparently deputies in this great state 110 00:05:37,350 --> 00:05:33,039 of Utah are investigating a case in 111 00:05:42,180 --> 00:05:37,360 which a number of cows were mutilated 112 00:05:44,540 --> 00:05:42,190 postmortem means after death and I guess 113 00:05:47,930 --> 00:05:44,550 there was some strange cuts and 114 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:47,940 and some strange mutilation to the 115 00:05:52,130 --> 00:05:50,010 animals I really don't know a whole lot 116 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:52,140 beyond that so if anybody that's 117 00:05:56,030 --> 00:05:54,090 listening out there has more information 118 00:05:57,830 --> 00:05:56,040 wonder if you're listening and you have 119 00:06:01,850 --> 00:05:57,840 additional information feel free to fill 120 00:06:03,980 --> 00:06:01,860 us in but you know once again it's one 121 00:06:06,710 --> 00:06:03,990 of those areas where it just won't go 122 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:06,720 away and it seems its ongoing and if 123 00:06:12,350 --> 00:06:10,080 indeed this is truly a animal harvesting 124 00:06:13,810 --> 00:06:12,360 case and and hopefully we'll find out 125 00:06:15,860 --> 00:06:13,820 and the authorities that are 126 00:06:17,630 --> 00:06:15,870 investigating it will be forthcoming 127 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:17,640 with additional information because I 128 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:19,530 think they put out a call for help they 129 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:22,110 they were asking for anybody that had 130 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:24,450 additional information to contact their 131 00:06:29,150 --> 00:06:27,210 office and you know MJ I thought I would 132 00:06:30,650 --> 00:06:29,160 wait until tomorrow or Tuesday and I'll 133 00:06:32,450 --> 00:06:30,660 shoot them off an email and see what I 134 00:06:34,370 --> 00:06:32,460 get there you go and and I'm going to 135 00:06:36,290 --> 00:06:34,380 throw that link up in chat if you're 136 00:06:38,540 --> 00:06:36,300 listening at the iron chat if you're in 137 00:06:41,030 --> 00:06:38,550 chat or kind of hanging on the back end 138 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:41,040 of it also throw that link up on our 139 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:42,810 Facebook page if you want to take a look 140 00:06:49,430 --> 00:06:47,250 uh yeah it's pretty strange can yep but 141 00:06:53,990 --> 00:06:49,440 I hey I kind of like to talk about a 142 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:54,000 case that I really been kind of rolling 143 00:06:57,830 --> 00:06:56,250 around inside my pea brain as to whether 144 00:07:00,320 --> 00:06:57,840 or not it would even go down this road 145 00:07:02,570 --> 00:07:00,330 on the radio and basically in the last 146 00:07:05,570 --> 00:07:02,580 20 minutes I decided to go ahead and 147 00:07:07,460 --> 00:07:05,580 talk about it I want our listeners to 148 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:07,470 understand that it is an ongoing case 149 00:07:14,180 --> 00:07:10,250 and there are certain areas and 150 00:07:16,310 --> 00:07:14,190 information that i do have that I I 151 00:07:20,540 --> 00:07:16,320 don't want to release at least not just 152 00:07:23,860 --> 00:07:20,550 yet but and some and some of the people 153 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:23,870 that are listening tonight have 154 00:07:27,980 --> 00:07:25,890 information because I talked to him 155 00:07:30,140 --> 00:07:27,990 about it and basically to get their 156 00:07:36,170 --> 00:07:30,150 feedback and see what they thought but 157 00:07:41,810 --> 00:07:36,180 here it goes a back in back in Desert 158 00:07:46,610 --> 00:07:41,820 Storm in 1990 and 91 if you remember 159 00:07:49,910 --> 00:07:46,620 general Schwarzkopf was the supreme 160 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:49,920 Allied commander that led the coalition 161 00:07:56,300 --> 00:07:54,330 against Iraq if we remember george bush 162 00:07:58,940 --> 00:07:56,310 senior was a president 163 00:08:02,090 --> 00:07:58,950 and he said that the invasion of Kuwait 164 00:08:05,090 --> 00:08:02,100 will not stand and that we had to drive 165 00:08:07,670 --> 00:08:05,100 the Iraqi army and Sodom Hussein out of 166 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:07,680 there that's just a brief thumbnail of 167 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:12,090 where this investigation starts one of 168 00:08:18,530 --> 00:08:16,770 the battle plans and this is a fact I 169 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:18,540 mean we now know that this is how 170 00:08:26,690 --> 00:08:23,810 Schwarzkopf subsequently defeated the 171 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:26,700 vaulted Republican Guard remember there 172 00:08:31,940 --> 00:08:29,850 was a lot of press regarding the 173 00:08:33,910 --> 00:08:31,950 Republican Guard and how tenacious and 174 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:33,920 trained and equipped they were and 175 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:36,810 basically the desert storm was over 176 00:08:44,870 --> 00:08:41,490 within 72 hours Schwarzkopf shredded the 177 00:08:50,830 --> 00:08:44,880 Republican Guard and part of that battle 178 00:08:54,410 --> 00:08:50,840 plan was that he had special forces 179 00:08:56,630 --> 00:08:54,420 dropped in behind the Republican 180 00:08:59,510 --> 00:08:56,640 defensive positions Republican Guard 181 00:09:03,500 --> 00:08:59,520 defensive position in Iraq and Kuwait 182 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:03,510 and so that when his armored units broke 183 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:07,170 through the defensive line they would 184 00:09:14,180 --> 00:09:10,800 race across the desert approximately 200 185 00:09:15,890 --> 00:09:14,190 miles was the range of the m1a abram 186 00:09:19,130 --> 00:09:15,900 tanks and the bradley fighting machines 187 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:19,140 and so these special forces had set up 188 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:22,170 fuel depots out in the desert so that 189 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:25,410 they could resupply and refuel these 190 00:09:30,050 --> 00:09:27,930 armored columns that would break through 191 00:09:34,100 --> 00:09:30,060 the rib to the republican lines and 192 00:09:35,930 --> 00:09:34,110 basically in trap and cut off the iraqi 193 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:35,940 army and that's exactly what happened if 194 00:09:40,970 --> 00:09:38,690 for those that are listening you can see 195 00:09:42,650 --> 00:09:40,980 you can go and research that and 196 00:09:45,140 --> 00:09:42,660 essentially that's what happened it was 197 00:09:47,690 --> 00:09:45,150 swift and decisive like i said though 198 00:09:50,470 --> 00:09:47,700 the war i think was really over in 72 199 00:09:53,350 --> 00:09:50,480 hours but another it was 120 hours and 200 00:09:55,820 --> 00:09:53,360 bush declared a cease to hostilities 201 00:09:59,450 --> 00:09:55,830 well that's where this investigation 202 00:10:02,270 --> 00:09:59,460 begins because one of those special ops 203 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:02,280 if you will that dropped in behind the 204 00:10:07,910 --> 00:10:05,850 republican defensive positions and set 205 00:10:13,310 --> 00:10:07,920 up one of the fuel depots 206 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:13,320 a gentleman that I had been in contact 207 00:10:21,019 --> 00:10:17,450 with was a part of that special ops and 208 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:21,029 he was also if you remember about two 209 00:10:28,970 --> 00:10:24,649 years ago there was a helicopter with 34 210 00:10:32,689 --> 00:10:28,980 Green Berets Special Forces and seal 211 00:10:34,610 --> 00:10:32,699 team 6 that went down on killed 36 or 38 212 00:10:36,500 --> 00:10:34,620 that we're on a helicopter in northern 213 00:10:38,389 --> 00:10:36,510 Afghanistan do you remember that yes 214 00:10:40,460 --> 00:10:38,399 they do yeah yeah I think it was about 215 00:10:42,290 --> 00:10:40,470 two years ago well this gentleman was 216 00:10:46,250 --> 00:10:42,300 supposed to have been on that hill a 217 00:10:48,949 --> 00:10:46,260 copter but he had apparently broken his 218 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:48,959 leg and a training accident two weeks 219 00:10:54,019 --> 00:10:51,120 prior training for this particular 220 00:10:59,439 --> 00:10:54,029 mission and so he wasn't on that chopper 221 00:11:04,550 --> 00:10:59,449 and there for about 15 or 16 of his 222 00:11:07,639 --> 00:11:04,560 close group were killed now his claim to 223 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:07,649 fame was that going back to Desert Storm 224 00:11:15,380 --> 00:11:10,410 when they were dropped in behind the 225 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:15,390 Republican Guard his particular squad if 226 00:11:19,550 --> 00:11:17,130 you will was dropped off in the Iraqi 227 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:19,560 desert and they set up their fuel depot 228 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:21,810 and communication system and they were 229 00:11:29,300 --> 00:11:26,250 unable to communicate they couldn't get 230 00:11:33,170 --> 00:11:29,310 out on sat nav none of their GPS systems 231 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:33,180 worked they had trouble keeping their 232 00:11:38,509 --> 00:11:35,490 generators running and it's at that time 233 00:11:40,910 --> 00:11:38,519 that they noticed according to him that 234 00:11:45,910 --> 00:11:40,920 there was a humming sound and it seemed 235 00:11:49,699 --> 00:11:45,920 like the ground was vibrating and it was 236 00:11:58,030 --> 00:11:49,709 and I'm going by what he was saying okay 237 00:12:01,519 --> 00:11:58,040 and they apparently found part of a 238 00:12:06,079 --> 00:12:01,529 pyramid sticking out of the desert floor 239 00:12:08,059 --> 00:12:06,089 and the vibration and humming sound was 240 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:08,069 coming under the ground and particularly 241 00:12:15,050 --> 00:12:11,010 from this particular what appeared to be 242 00:12:18,740 --> 00:12:15,060 a pyramid now he he claimed that he had 243 00:12:20,950 --> 00:12:18,750 maps gps coordinates and pictures of 244 00:12:24,190 --> 00:12:20,960 what I'm saying and he 245 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:24,200 was terrified to the point of being 246 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:27,250 paranoid that his life was in danger and 247 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:30,410 I was trying to convince him MJ to come 248 00:12:36,390 --> 00:12:32,810 on the radio and tell a story in fact I 249 00:12:40,540 --> 00:12:36,400 was working on it when paradigm unhinged 250 00:12:42,750 --> 00:12:40,550 was up and running and I'd have 251 00:12:47,980 --> 00:12:42,760 communication with the gentleman but he 252 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:47,990 was real difficult to convince let's to 253 00:12:54,610 --> 00:12:51,290 say the least to come public and talk 254 00:12:57,790 --> 00:12:54,620 about his story now I can tell you a 255 00:13:00,040 --> 00:12:57,800 little bit I was able to substantiate on 256 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:00,050 a story he according to his discharge 257 00:13:06,250 --> 00:13:03,050 papers his DD 214 for those of us that 258 00:13:09,850 --> 00:13:06,260 have been in the military those are your 259 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:09,860 discharge papers and it has on it your 260 00:13:13,750 --> 00:13:11,690 assignment your rank and where you did 261 00:13:17,590 --> 00:13:13,760 training apparently he was who he said 262 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:17,600 he was he was a Special Forces trained 263 00:13:27,070 --> 00:13:21,410 he was over in Iraq in the first Desert 264 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:27,080 Storm um he was part of a special ops 265 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:31,850 unit and the second operation against 266 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:36,650 Saddam Hussein and it was assigned to 267 00:13:43,690 --> 00:13:40,570 like I said Special Forces and had been 268 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:43,700 received Purple Heart and had been 269 00:13:52,900 --> 00:13:49,570 decorated in Desert Storm but he was 270 00:13:54,340 --> 00:13:52,910 paranoid I guess that's the only way I 271 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:54,350 can describe it and it was really 272 00:14:00,220 --> 00:13:58,130 difficult I he would get a hold of me I 273 00:14:06,070 --> 00:14:00,230 had difficulty in getting hold of him 274 00:14:07,660 --> 00:14:06,080 anyway he was found this week with two 275 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:07,670 bullets in the back of his head in an 276 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:13,450 alley in Denver whoo and I have somebody 277 00:14:23,550 --> 00:14:18,170 that is working on getting the Denver 278 00:14:26,470 --> 00:14:23,560 Police Department report I do have a 279 00:14:30,790 --> 00:14:26,480 contact with the first officer that was 280 00:14:33,549 --> 00:14:30,800 on scene the body of this gentleman was 281 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:33,559 found in an alley and he had 282 00:14:37,369 --> 00:14:35,910 apparently been executed with two 283 00:14:40,069 --> 00:14:37,379 bullets in the back of the head and I 284 00:14:42,530 --> 00:14:40,079 don't know if he was killed in the alley 285 00:14:46,369 --> 00:14:42,540 or if the body was dropped off in the 286 00:14:48,079 --> 00:14:46,379 alley I suspect that the latter is the 287 00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:48,089 case that he was killed somewhere else 288 00:14:56,509 --> 00:14:52,649 and his body dumped in the alley I can 289 00:15:04,999 --> 00:14:56,519 tell you and our listeners that there 290 00:15:08,299 --> 00:15:05,009 are indicators that I know of to show 291 00:15:13,100 --> 00:15:08,309 that he indeed was on to something now 292 00:15:16,069 --> 00:15:13,110 according to his statement that the 293 00:15:20,809 --> 00:15:16,079 reason why we went into Iraq the second 294 00:15:25,429 --> 00:15:20,819 time if you recall it was seen Bush 295 00:15:27,559 --> 00:15:25,439 Senior George was at George Walker Bush 296 00:15:31,729 --> 00:15:27,569 the old man is the one that stopped 297 00:15:34,069 --> 00:15:31,739 schwarzkopf about 85 miles from going 298 00:15:36,109 --> 00:15:34,079 into Baghdad and Schwarzkopf wanted to 299 00:15:42,350 --> 00:15:36,119 go in there and apparently there was a 300 00:15:44,809 --> 00:15:42,360 big confrontation in terms of verbal 301 00:15:47,989 --> 00:15:44,819 argument between general Schwarzkopf and 302 00:15:50,119 --> 00:15:47,999 the Bush administration and Bush bush 303 00:15:52,909 --> 00:15:50,129 was concerned that the coalition of the 304 00:15:54,409 --> 00:15:52,919 Arab states wouldn't hold together if 305 00:15:57,259 --> 00:15:54,419 they pushed out into Baghdad and 306 00:15:59,569 --> 00:15:57,269 apparently Schwarzkopf said that's okay 307 00:16:01,309 --> 00:15:59,579 let him sit on the sidelines he 308 00:16:02,869 --> 00:16:01,319 understood the air of mind and he wanted 309 00:16:07,309 --> 00:16:02,879 to make a statement he goes now is the 310 00:16:09,799 --> 00:16:07,319 time to depose of Saddam Hussein well of 311 00:16:13,609 --> 00:16:09,809 course as everybody knows that did not 312 00:16:18,619 --> 00:16:13,619 happen right right okay but the second 313 00:16:21,769 --> 00:16:18,629 invasion of Iraq by George Jr Bush was a 314 00:16:24,379 --> 00:16:21,779 result of if you remember we established 315 00:16:29,179 --> 00:16:24,389 a no-fly zone over the southern part of 316 00:16:33,169 --> 00:16:29,189 the Iraqi desert and Kuwait and if Iraq 317 00:16:35,059 --> 00:16:33,179 put up any helicopters or aircraft you 318 00:16:37,609 --> 00:16:35,069 know our forces was going to shoot him 319 00:16:41,199 --> 00:16:37,619 down it was a no-fly zone now according 320 00:16:43,699 --> 00:16:41,209 to this gentleman that a serious 321 00:16:46,650 --> 00:16:43,709 archaeological dig was underway where 322 00:16:49,230 --> 00:16:46,660 that where this pyramid had been dis 323 00:16:53,189 --> 00:16:49,240 bird in there in the Iraqi desert now 324 00:16:56,369 --> 00:16:53,199 let me stop right there hmm I had a very 325 00:17:00,780 --> 00:16:56,379 good friend her name was Judy orsatti 326 00:17:06,510 --> 00:17:00,790 and she was a board member of the mutual 327 00:17:10,590 --> 00:17:06,520 UFO network I was real good friends with 328 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:10,600 Judi newer for 12 14 years and she was 329 00:17:15,630 --> 00:17:12,370 on the board of directors for the mutual 330 00:17:18,929 --> 00:17:15,640 UFO network now what's interesting is 331 00:17:22,159 --> 00:17:18,939 that Judy was a entrepreneur a very 332 00:17:25,710 --> 00:17:22,169 successful businesswoman in Denver and 333 00:17:28,799 --> 00:17:25,720 she got a contract she was involved with 334 00:17:31,529 --> 00:17:28,809 Centennial auto lease leasing and they 335 00:17:34,710 --> 00:17:31,539 did leasing for companies worldwide it 336 00:17:36,810 --> 00:17:34,720 was a they would lease whatever you 337 00:17:39,270 --> 00:17:36,820 needed it wasn't just automobiles if you 338 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:39,280 needed a crane Centennial leasing would 339 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:43,330 get it for you and they she had been 340 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:45,850 approached are you ready for this mm-hmm 341 00:17:51,539 --> 00:17:48,809 by a representative from kellogg brune 342 00:17:53,490 --> 00:17:51,549 do you know who they are I'm not 343 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:53,500 familiar can let us yeah and probably 344 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:55,690 not most of our listeners are either and 345 00:18:03,260 --> 00:17:58,450 I wasn't until Judy turned me on to them 346 00:18:05,610 --> 00:18:03,270 Kellogg brune is a big-time government 347 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:05,620 subcontractor they are an integral part 348 00:18:13,409 --> 00:18:10,090 of Halliburton how about that okay do 349 00:18:15,330 --> 00:18:13,419 you know who Helen Burton is um not too 350 00:18:18,419 --> 00:18:15,340 shiny vice president yeah Burton oil 351 00:18:21,149 --> 00:18:18,429 yeah yeah okay okay well Kelly Kellogg 352 00:18:24,630 --> 00:18:21,159 brune is or was I don't know if they are 353 00:18:27,930 --> 00:18:24,640 now but they were a aves an integral 354 00:18:30,810 --> 00:18:27,940 part of Halliburton and a friend of hers 355 00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:30,820 that had graduated from the University 356 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:35,760 of Colorado there in boulder and had his 357 00:18:40,350 --> 00:18:38,650 master's degree in archaeology and Judy 358 00:18:42,690 --> 00:18:40,360 had her master's degree by the way in 359 00:18:46,980 --> 00:18:42,700 business he was one of the 360 00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:46,990 representatives that had contacted Judy 361 00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:53,100 to supply them with four-wheel drive 362 00:18:59,370 --> 00:18:56,080 vehicles that were to be desert 363 00:19:00,300 --> 00:18:59,380 camouflage hmm to the tune of about a 364 00:19:05,490 --> 00:19:00,310 hundred to two hundred 365 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:05,500 vehicles and I from what I gather and 366 00:19:11,610 --> 00:19:09,010 talking with Judy orsatti there was they 367 00:19:14,790 --> 00:19:11,620 were headed out into somewhere in the 368 00:19:17,790 --> 00:19:14,800 Iraqi desert on a archaeological dig 369 00:19:22,020 --> 00:19:17,800 that had recently been discovered now he 370 00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:22,030 did not know any more than just that all 371 00:19:28,380 --> 00:19:25,360 right but it somewhat verifies what this 372 00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:28,390 gentleman was telling me about what had 373 00:19:36,390 --> 00:19:30,160 been uncovered in the Iraqi desert 374 00:19:38,700 --> 00:19:36,400 concerning a a pyramid and judy was 375 00:19:41,870 --> 00:19:38,710 getting more information from her 376 00:19:44,790 --> 00:19:41,880 contact with kellogg brune and 377 00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:44,800 subsequently she was killed in a 378 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:47,830 motorcycle accident in in littleton 379 00:19:53,850 --> 00:19:51,130 colorado now whether or not that has 380 00:19:55,950 --> 00:19:53,860 anything to do with what i'm talking 381 00:19:57,930 --> 00:19:55,960 about tonight I have no idea all i know 382 00:20:00,690 --> 00:19:57,940 is that she was on the back of a Harley 383 00:20:04,140 --> 00:20:00,700 her husband was driving it and they were 384 00:20:08,670 --> 00:20:04,150 ran off the road and she hit a tree and 385 00:20:10,410 --> 00:20:08,680 died at the scene of the accident geez 386 00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:10,420 cut this kind of what's that this kind 387 00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:12,310 of goes back to nick redfern stuffing 388 00:20:17,370 --> 00:20:14,320 well you know what i was just getting 389 00:20:19,530 --> 00:20:17,380 just going to say that that when Nick 390 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:19,540 Redfern and when we were talking with 391 00:20:25,170 --> 00:20:23,410 Maryland and dick last week this story 392 00:20:27,810 --> 00:20:25,180 was coming I mean I was sitting there 393 00:20:30,570 --> 00:20:27,820 thinking my gosh I'm I know a little bit 394 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:30,580 about this because of what has occurred 395 00:20:35,790 --> 00:20:32,410 and what is occurring now the gentleman 396 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:35,800 was alive ok when Marilyn and Dick were 397 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:39,250 on and and Nick Redfern was on he he was 398 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:41,650 just found murdered here this week in 399 00:20:51,870 --> 00:20:48,130 Denver and I I have additional 400 00:20:53,490 --> 00:20:51,880 information I I just don't want to go 401 00:20:55,500 --> 00:20:53,500 into it at this point because like I 402 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:55,510 said it's an ongoing investigation and I 403 00:21:01,410 --> 00:20:58,210 don't want to contaminate it I'm waiting 404 00:21:05,940 --> 00:21:01,420 for some I'm waiting for the police 405 00:21:08,610 --> 00:21:05,950 report I requested a copy of that and I 406 00:21:12,330 --> 00:21:08,620 want to wait and see about the coroner's 407 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:12,340 report in regards to any toxicology 408 00:21:15,420 --> 00:21:13,570 tests and was the 409 00:21:18,030 --> 00:21:15,430 he dropped off in the alley or was he 410 00:21:19,530 --> 00:21:18,040 shot and killed in the alley I suspect 411 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:19,540 it's going to show that he was dropped 412 00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:21,130 off he was probably shot somewhere else 413 00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:22,960 I mean that's my gut instinct anyway 414 00:21:33,150 --> 00:21:27,760 mm-hmm okay now I get him back to this 415 00:21:36,270 --> 00:21:33,160 individual he he wore a Kevlar 416 00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:36,280 bulletproof vest 24-7 in fact the 417 00:21:42,420 --> 00:21:39,910 responding officer states that he he had 418 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:42,430 the vest on when when they found him in 419 00:21:51,540 --> 00:21:47,890 the alley yeah and as I said the 420 00:21:53,670 --> 00:21:51,550 gentleman was you know I it's one of 421 00:21:56,550 --> 00:21:53,680 those things were you know when you 422 00:21:59,790 --> 00:21:56,560 initially hear the story you go yeah 423 00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:59,800 okay but as you go further and further 424 00:22:03,150 --> 00:22:01,360 down this path and more and more 425 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:03,160 information comes to light that you're 426 00:22:09,630 --> 00:22:05,530 able to verify like for instance is DD 427 00:22:15,810 --> 00:22:09,640 214 you know he was discharged from the 428 00:22:18,090 --> 00:22:15,820 Army as a special forces a sergeant in 429 00:22:20,130 --> 00:22:18,100 the Special Forces he was the United 430 00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:20,140 States Army you know you know green 431 00:22:26,370 --> 00:22:23,440 beret he was who he said he was he had 432 00:22:30,660 --> 00:22:26,380 served in Desert Storm he had was in 433 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:30,670 Iraq the on the second invasion he was 434 00:22:37,020 --> 00:22:33,610 active in the military in the army and 435 00:22:42,510 --> 00:22:37,030 special forces in in the Middle East so 436 00:22:47,490 --> 00:22:42,520 you know there was verification as to 437 00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:47,500 who he was up to that point I I was 438 00:22:54,060 --> 00:22:50,400 trying to convince him to come he was 439 00:22:56,940 --> 00:22:54,070 really paranoid he said that he lived in 440 00:22:59,910 --> 00:22:56,950 a weekly hotel a paid by the week and he 441 00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:59,920 would move once a week and he would call 442 00:23:03,420 --> 00:23:01,360 him I never knew what kind of number he 443 00:23:06,330 --> 00:23:03,430 would have one of those throwaway phones 444 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:06,340 that you buy yeah and so the number 445 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:09,760 would constantly change I had difficulty 446 00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:12,610 and staying in contact with them and you 447 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:17,200 know the last communication that was 448 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:19,810 going on I was trying to convince him to 449 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:23,110 come on the radio and tell his story as 450 00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:26,410 a way of protecting him because I I told 451 00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:27,520 him I said if 452 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:29,440 if you would go public and go on the 453 00:23:37,260 --> 00:23:32,290 radio it would there are no guarantees 454 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:37,270 but it would go a long way in shining 455 00:23:42,780 --> 00:23:39,730 the light on this subject and give him 456 00:23:44,580 --> 00:23:42,790 you know some type of of protection 457 00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:44,590 because his story would be out there in 458 00:23:49,410 --> 00:23:46,960 in the case of something happening to 459 00:23:54,270 --> 00:23:49,420 him well you know something did happen 460 00:24:00,150 --> 00:23:54,280 to him and he was adamant that he had 461 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:00,160 maps photographs coordinates and other 462 00:24:07,470 --> 00:24:04,170 documentation to show where this 463 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:07,480 archaeological dig was taking place I do 464 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:09,930 not know where those are at the moment I 465 00:24:19,620 --> 00:24:14,530 know that he had family in Seattle I'm 466 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:19,630 hoping that that they might be able to 467 00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:23,290 shed some light I I you know one of 468 00:24:26,940 --> 00:24:25,600 somebody that was that is familiar with 469 00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:26,950 the story said weekend don't be 470 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:28,720 surprised if a package shows up at your 471 00:24:36,150 --> 00:24:30,610 door and that's a distinct possibility i 472 00:24:38,180 --> 00:24:36,160 I don't know that but that was one of 473 00:24:41,610 --> 00:24:38,190 the things that I had talked to had 474 00:24:43,020 --> 00:24:41,620 conveyed to him that he needed to do was 475 00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:43,030 you know let's let's put that 476 00:24:49,470 --> 00:24:46,480 information out and it'll take some of 477 00:24:52,410 --> 00:24:49,480 the heat off of them can't can't hit a 478 00:24:54,090 --> 00:24:52,420 couple questions from chat uh i think it 479 00:24:55,710 --> 00:24:54,100 was from american road warrior let me 480 00:25:02,340 --> 00:24:55,720 grab when's the last time you talked to 481 00:25:04,350 --> 00:25:02,350 him that was um I was going through 482 00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:04,360 another party I just don't want to 483 00:25:09,330 --> 00:25:07,360 mention their name right now but the 484 00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:09,340 last time I had communication with this 485 00:25:16,290 --> 00:25:13,440 individual was about ten days ago okay 486 00:25:21,810 --> 00:25:16,300 about two weeks that'd be yeah it'll be 487 00:25:25,890 --> 00:25:21,820 two weeks on tuesday another question 488 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:25,900 from George PD what's that his name is 489 00:25:30,780 --> 00:25:28,090 George PD he's in chat I think new 490 00:25:33,060 --> 00:25:30,790 listener he's wondering if there's any 491 00:25:34,830 --> 00:25:33,070 more information on the pyramid that has 492 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:34,840 gone public have you heard anything or 493 00:25:41,410 --> 00:25:38,050 seen anything no I haven't 494 00:25:45,580 --> 00:25:41,420 there there is another individual that 495 00:25:48,850 --> 00:25:45,590 can somewhat verify part of what Judy 496 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:48,860 orsatti told me this individual was 497 00:25:57,220 --> 00:25:52,850 stationed at Ramadi as a subcontractor 498 00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:57,230 private contractor I don't want to say 499 00:26:02,500 --> 00:25:59,210 what his job was because I don't have 500 00:26:05,950 --> 00:26:02,510 permission to say that it was relatively 501 00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:05,960 secret but he was working through a 502 00:26:12,670 --> 00:26:08,510 private company that was contracted by 503 00:26:15,010 --> 00:26:12,680 our government to do some work in the 504 00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:15,020 Middle East and he was stationed in 505 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:20,480 Ramadi and he and three other gentlemen 506 00:26:28,150 --> 00:26:24,770 were flying back in a in a charter plane 507 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:28,160 and he was looking out the window and he 508 00:26:32,770 --> 00:26:31,010 saw off in the distance out in the 509 00:26:35,470 --> 00:26:32,780 middle of the desert he wasn't really 510 00:26:39,340 --> 00:26:35,480 sure where it was but he certainly knew 511 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:39,350 the direction and he saw a lot of what 512 00:26:46,030 --> 00:26:43,130 he described as strange activity a lot 513 00:26:48,910 --> 00:26:46,040 of vehicles some military but mostly 514 00:26:50,980 --> 00:26:48,920 appeared to be civilian vehicles out in 515 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:50,990 the desert and so when they landed at 516 00:26:58,060 --> 00:26:53,090 Ramadi his curiosity him and another 517 00:27:01,750 --> 00:26:58,070 gentleman rented a Land Rover and they 518 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:01,760 he drove out into the desert he said 519 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:03,290 about an hour and a half maybe two hours 520 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:07,130 outside of Ramadi and they were driving 521 00:27:11,890 --> 00:27:10,370 down this desert road and when they came 522 00:27:15,940 --> 00:27:11,900 up over this little rise they were 523 00:27:18,130 --> 00:27:15,950 stopped by gentleman armed they were in 524 00:27:21,370 --> 00:27:18,140 civilian clothes but they had heavy 525 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:21,380 weapons by heavy weapons means they had 526 00:27:27,340 --> 00:27:24,050 a machine gun mounted on a Humvee and 527 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:27,350 they were armed with with weapons and 528 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:29,450 basically told him they couldn't go any 529 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:31,250 further and to turn around and go back 530 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:34,010 the same way they came and that is as 531 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:37,610 close as they got to what he observed in 532 00:27:45,780 --> 00:27:42,050 the airplane of this activity so once 533 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:45,790 again it's a you know it's a smoke 534 00:27:50,350 --> 00:27:47,690 nothing definite but it certainly 535 00:27:51,570 --> 00:27:50,360 indicates that that there was something 536 00:27:57,630 --> 00:27:51,580 going on in 537 00:27:59,670 --> 00:27:57,640 the Iraqi desert and goes a little bit 538 00:28:02,040 --> 00:27:59,680 towards what this gentleman was telling 539 00:28:04,730 --> 00:28:02,050 me about what happened to them when they 540 00:28:08,490 --> 00:28:04,740 dropped in behind the Republican Guard 541 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:08,500 so he he was adamant that it was a 542 00:28:12,270 --> 00:28:10,450 pyramid he saw it in fact he took a 543 00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:12,280 photograph several of them and he had 544 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:15,520 him of this tip of this pyramid sticking 545 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:19,330 out of the sand not too can not go ahead 546 00:28:24,330 --> 00:28:22,450 not to compare us to what Germany was 547 00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:24,340 working on during the war with all this 548 00:28:29,850 --> 00:28:26,950 research but it's almost seems like we 549 00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:29,860 went into a country and you know almost 550 00:28:34,590 --> 00:28:32,710 did the same thing it just sounds weird 551 00:28:35,940 --> 00:28:34,600 I mean ha just looking for all this this 552 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:35,950 archaeological find where they're 553 00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:38,170 thinking people are thinking and chat it 554 00:28:43,380 --> 00:28:40,710 may be a star gate or some type of I 555 00:28:46,350 --> 00:28:43,390 don't know I mean I know some of that 556 00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:46,360 has been thrown out on the table I've 557 00:28:53,090 --> 00:28:49,510 always felt that the that the pyramids 558 00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:53,100 at least the ones that we see were not 559 00:29:00,270 --> 00:28:58,240 for burial they weren't a temple of 560 00:29:03,230 --> 00:29:00,280 worship I was more of the opinion that 561 00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:03,240 they housed some type of machinery and 562 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:06,310 I've always felt that the pyramids were 563 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:09,670 built and modified by the Egyptians but 564 00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:11,890 they certainly weren't built with the 565 00:29:17,490 --> 00:29:14,710 intent that the Egyptians led us to 566 00:29:21,410 --> 00:29:17,500 believe that there was a whole nother 567 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:21,420 purpose to the pyramids and to hear him 568 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:24,970 you know talk about just the tip of this 569 00:29:32,340 --> 00:29:26,530 pyramid sticking out of the sand and 570 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:32,350 then it was emitting energy that was 571 00:29:35,670 --> 00:29:34,330 able to neutralize their communication 572 00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:35,680 equipment that they weren't able to get 573 00:29:39,090 --> 00:29:37,420 out that the that they'd look to a 574 00:29:41,670 --> 00:29:39,100 magnetic field was strong enough to 575 00:29:44,220 --> 00:29:41,680 dampen any type of signal that they 576 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:44,230 weren't able to transmit that I don't 577 00:29:49,260 --> 00:29:45,850 know I you know it really piqued my 578 00:29:52,530 --> 00:29:49,270 interest and then given what Judy 579 00:29:54,870 --> 00:29:52,540 orsatti had told me mm-hmm and this 580 00:29:57,270 --> 00:29:54,880 other gentleman that was stationed in 581 00:29:59,310 --> 00:29:57,280 Ramadi what he told me I mean it's like 582 00:30:01,290 --> 00:29:59,320 putting the pieces of a puzzle together 583 00:30:02,550 --> 00:30:01,300 and you start to say well wait a minute 584 00:30:04,810 --> 00:30:02,560 you know you've got three different 585 00:30:06,490 --> 00:30:04,820 people talking about something 586 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:06,500 that's happening out in the desert and 587 00:30:10,539 --> 00:30:08,570 you don't have a clear picture but it's 588 00:30:14,740 --> 00:30:10,549 you know it's enough to really arouse 589 00:30:18,009 --> 00:30:14,750 your curiosity and according to this 590 00:30:21,340 --> 00:30:18,019 gentleman the reason that they went back 591 00:30:23,919 --> 00:30:21,350 in on the Second Gulf War they the 592 00:30:27,930 --> 00:30:23,929 weapons of mass destruction was just a 593 00:30:30,909 --> 00:30:27,940 ruse to get the American military 594 00:30:34,450 --> 00:30:30,919 reengaged is because the Russians and 595 00:30:36,009 --> 00:30:34,460 the Chinese had gotten wind of what was 596 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:36,019 going on in the desert and they were 597 00:30:42,940 --> 00:30:37,730 starting to wheel and deal with Saddam 598 00:30:45,070 --> 00:30:42,950 Hussein oh and apparently the powers to 599 00:30:46,690 --> 00:30:45,080 be couldn't risk that so you know we 600 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:46,700 came up with this and I'm just going 601 00:30:51,580 --> 00:30:49,370 about what he was telling me that you 602 00:30:53,470 --> 00:30:51,590 know they had come up with this weapons 603 00:30:55,810 --> 00:30:53,480 of mass destruction and that they had to 604 00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:55,820 go in and take down the regime of Saddam 605 00:31:02,529 --> 00:30:59,120 Hussein and and invade Iraq and you know 606 00:31:06,580 --> 00:31:02,539 basically you know go into Baghdad but 607 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:06,590 his claim was that it was because the 608 00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:08,570 Russians and the Chinese had gotten wind 609 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:11,600 of what the Americans had stumbled 610 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:14,450 across and that they were starting to 611 00:31:18,159 --> 00:31:16,250 wheel and deal was how I was saying and 612 00:31:20,139 --> 00:31:18,169 so to solidify whatever it was that they 613 00:31:22,210 --> 00:31:20,149 were working on in desert and I 614 00:31:24,369 --> 00:31:22,220 apparently hadn't quite finished 615 00:31:26,649 --> 00:31:24,379 excavating whatever it was they were 616 00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:26,659 digging out during the desert so you 617 00:31:30,730 --> 00:31:28,399 know the cover story is we got to go in 618 00:31:35,649 --> 00:31:30,740 for weapons of mass destruction mm-hmm 619 00:31:38,139 --> 00:31:35,659 and you know that and that wouldn't be 620 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:38,149 the first time that something like that 621 00:31:45,580 --> 00:31:43,570 has been used to engage the military 622 00:31:48,669 --> 00:31:45,590 Adolf Hitler did it when he invaded 623 00:31:52,629 --> 00:31:48,679 Poland mm-hmm okay I mean he dressed up 624 00:31:53,980 --> 00:31:52,639 14 Jews and in German uniforms and shot 625 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:53,990 him and claimed that the polls had 626 00:32:00,220 --> 00:31:56,450 executed a German outpost and that was 627 00:32:02,110 --> 00:32:00,230 his pretense for invading Poland yeah I 628 00:32:03,460 --> 00:32:02,120 mean there's a people go back through 629 00:32:07,450 --> 00:32:03,470 history there's a number of examples 630 00:32:13,930 --> 00:32:07,460 where governments have used a an excuse 631 00:32:18,019 --> 00:32:13,940 like that to invade or crush the 632 00:32:21,769 --> 00:32:18,029 opposing forces as a result of 633 00:32:23,899 --> 00:32:21,779 having a an excuse so I don't know I 634 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:23,909 mean that could very well have been the 635 00:32:29,209 --> 00:32:27,570 excuse I don't know what like I said 636 00:32:32,570 --> 00:32:29,219 there are some still things that I'm 637 00:32:35,659 --> 00:32:32,580 waiting for to come in that and I will 638 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:35,669 keep our listeners posted as information 639 00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:36,690 comes in on this particular 640 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:39,929 investigation but and i think that 641 00:32:45,469 --> 00:32:42,090 there's going to be more mmm you know 642 00:32:48,769 --> 00:32:45,479 the i don't think that whatever whatever 643 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:48,779 he was paranoid of apparently had good 644 00:32:56,599 --> 00:32:54,570 reason to be scared and I from what 645 00:32:59,779 --> 00:32:56,609 little I know about this individual he 646 00:33:03,109 --> 00:32:59,789 was very meticulous I suspect that he 647 00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:03,119 does have written documentation of sorts 648 00:33:07,969 --> 00:33:05,849 and that whether or not they were able 649 00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:07,979 to catch him with that or he put it in a 650 00:33:14,659 --> 00:33:10,529 safe deposit box or he mailed it 651 00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:14,669 somewhere I remains to be seen right I 652 00:33:20,779 --> 00:33:17,369 I'm thinking of this the possible size 653 00:33:23,539 --> 00:33:20,789 of this pyramid one thing I question how 654 00:33:28,190 --> 00:33:23,549 would they hide it from intelligence 655 00:33:29,749 --> 00:33:28,200 satellites well yeah it's a good 656 00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:29,759 question I wanted like I mean I'm sure 657 00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:33,809 the they have some type of device I mean 658 00:33:40,129 --> 00:33:35,190 there's stuff that that the military 659 00:33:46,869 --> 00:33:40,139 uses we have no clue about well I you 660 00:33:57,019 --> 00:33:53,899 you know mapping google earth and in 661 00:34:00,499 --> 00:33:57,029 satellite photography if you google 662 00:34:04,969 --> 00:34:00,509 earth you can google Dugway which is no 663 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:04,979 quiller county in utah and I have 664 00:34:12,769 --> 00:34:09,450 photographs of stuff Bob Tarzan and I 665 00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:12,779 have photographs of stuff in Doug way 666 00:34:17,059 --> 00:34:14,399 that will not show up on Google Earth 667 00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:17,069 and I mean Bob and I look at each other 668 00:34:20,269 --> 00:34:18,569 and go in it that's pretty well because 669 00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:20,279 you can google earth and zoom in and 670 00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:22,079 some of the stuff that we have 35 671 00:34:28,099 --> 00:34:24,480 millimeter film of does it show up on on 672 00:34:30,349 --> 00:34:28,109 the satellite right right right so I i 673 00:34:31,580 --> 00:34:30,359 mean III just ruled that out there as an 674 00:34:33,020 --> 00:34:31,590 explanation I 675 00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:33,030 I don't have an answer for you would 676 00:34:47,060 --> 00:34:43,110 think that that this structure this 677 00:34:48,590 --> 00:34:47,070 compound if it was emitting energy one 678 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:48,600 of the questions I wanted to know and I 679 00:34:54,410 --> 00:34:51,690 never received an answer was that was it 680 00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:54,420 a constant or was it just intermittent 681 00:34:58,490 --> 00:34:56,910 or was it activated because you know 682 00:34:59,630 --> 00:34:58,500 these guys happen to drop in and they 683 00:35:02,180 --> 00:34:59,640 starting to set up their community 684 00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:02,190 communication equipment and it and it 685 00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:04,260 activated you know the power source 686 00:35:08,270 --> 00:35:06,000 those were quite all questions I wanted 687 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:08,280 to know because I would think that if it 688 00:35:16,510 --> 00:35:13,530 was if it was powerful enough to jam or 689 00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:16,520 mute radio equipment and stuff like that 690 00:35:22,820 --> 00:35:19,470 that they would be able to pinpoint that 691 00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:22,830 on and register that on other equipment 692 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:24,480 so it may have been something that just 693 00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:26,370 came on intermittently it may not have 694 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:29,310 been a constant I don't know interesting 695 00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:32,370 it's almost like a ancient structure was 696 00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:35,310 activated somehow well you know I'm one 697 00:35:40,340 --> 00:35:37,560 of those people that I truly believe 698 00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:40,350 that there are other pyramids around the 699 00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:42,800 globe that we haven't we haven't found I 700 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:45,240 mean you look at what's going on in 701 00:35:51,860 --> 00:35:49,050 Bosnia and I think that huh yup they've 702 00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:51,870 also they've also found one in Wisconsin 703 00:35:59,630 --> 00:35:54,630 in the lake too yeah I heard that yet 704 00:36:02,210 --> 00:35:59,640 mm-hmm and I also heard that there there 705 00:36:05,090 --> 00:36:02,220 suspect that there's a pyramid structure 706 00:36:10,370 --> 00:36:05,100 off the coast of Japan mm-hmm you know 707 00:36:13,340 --> 00:36:10,380 underwater so I you know I and once 708 00:36:16,430 --> 00:36:13,350 again you know we're back to why 709 00:36:18,590 --> 00:36:16,440 pyramids I mean that's a very furry for 710 00:36:21,830 --> 00:36:18,600 ancient you know I'm one of these people 711 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:21,840 that have a hard time believing that a 712 00:36:29,690 --> 00:36:26,970 civilization that used bone and was not 713 00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:29,700 of the Copper Age was able to construct 714 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:34,710 and carve intricate stone monoliths to 715 00:36:39,770 --> 00:36:38,130 the magnitude that we see today okay I 716 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:39,780 just have a hard time you know that 717 00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:41,850 these ancient civilizations were able to 718 00:36:47,180 --> 00:36:43,140 move to 719 00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:47,190 ton blocks right miles from a quarry and 720 00:36:51,020 --> 00:36:48,900 then construct them and build these 721 00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:51,030 massive pyramids you know whether it's 722 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:54,000 in South America or in China or in the 723 00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:56,370 Middle East or in you know Eastern 724 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:01,200 Europe I i I'm nobody's really come up 725 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:03,930 with a halfway decent explanation at 726 00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:06,450 least mainstream archeology hasn't as to 727 00:37:12,350 --> 00:37:08,880 how these were quarried transported and 728 00:37:15,170 --> 00:37:12,360 then put into place yeah I watched a 729 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:15,180 watches special on the mounds two of the 730 00:37:21,620 --> 00:37:19,010 United States and Casey pretty much 731 00:37:23,620 --> 00:37:21,630 figured out that there was no land 732 00:37:25,790 --> 00:37:23,630 bridge coming across by the 733 00:37:27,830 --> 00:37:25,800 archaeological finds and ages of stuff 734 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:27,840 so I don't know mainstream science 735 00:37:39,340 --> 00:37:31,290 really needs to do an overhaul can well 736 00:37:43,790 --> 00:37:39,350 yeah and you know I i I'm a big fan of 737 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:43,800 ancient aliens and and you know I read 738 00:37:48,130 --> 00:37:45,330 the chariot of the Gods when it first 739 00:37:50,060 --> 00:37:48,140 came out band Anakin and he asks 740 00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:50,070 questions that have not yet been 741 00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:53,310 answered and i think it's a it's an 742 00:37:57,110 --> 00:37:54,720 embarrassment to mainstream archeology 743 00:38:00,020 --> 00:37:57,120 and mainstream science because there 744 00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:00,030 really are pertinent questions that have 745 00:38:05,870 --> 00:38:03,510 answers but we just don't have them hmm 746 00:38:08,540 --> 00:38:05,880 and and and mainstream science has a 747 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:08,550 tendency to ignore that or overlooked it 748 00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,130 like well you know it's not really 749 00:38:18,590 --> 00:38:13,680 important well you look at some of the 750 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:18,600 rooms in peru and at you know the ruins 751 00:38:24,860 --> 00:38:22,170 that are 10,000 feet and they didn't 752 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:24,870 there's no trees up there right ok and 753 00:38:30,650 --> 00:38:27,330 how where did they quarried those stones 754 00:38:33,790 --> 00:38:30,660 and how did an ancient people move them 755 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:33,800 across rivers and valleys and mountains 756 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:36,450 okay right out the wheel in the pulley 757 00:38:40,490 --> 00:38:38,250 and they keep in mind even if they did 758 00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:40,500 have the wheel in the pulley we today 759 00:38:46,300 --> 00:38:43,200 would be incapable of moving you know 760 00:38:51,230 --> 00:38:46,310 200 tons of stone across the mountain 761 00:38:54,830 --> 00:38:51,240 without making roads first right this 762 00:38:57,019 --> 00:38:54,840 planet definitely had a past history of 763 00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:57,029 a race that 764 00:39:01,459 --> 00:38:58,880 was pretty technical eg a 765 00:39:03,140 --> 00:39:01,469 technologically advanced but I guess 766 00:39:05,209 --> 00:39:03,150 that's something maybe mainstream 767 00:39:07,399 --> 00:39:05,219 science knows but they're hiding you 768 00:39:10,939 --> 00:39:07,409 think well you know yeah I mean Giorgio 769 00:39:14,380 --> 00:39:10,949 tsoukalos you know he's a spokesman for 770 00:39:19,370 --> 00:39:14,390 in search of aliens or a junt aliens and 771 00:39:21,380 --> 00:39:19,380 you know I like the guy he he asks the 772 00:39:24,829 --> 00:39:21,390 same questions that I've been asking for 773 00:39:30,729 --> 00:39:24,839 years and years and years and I you know 774 00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:30,739 I how do why why would an ancient 775 00:39:37,219 --> 00:39:33,569 culture separate it by time and distance 776 00:39:39,979 --> 00:39:37,229 all over this planet choose to build a 777 00:39:42,979 --> 00:39:39,989 pyramid mm-hmm I mean that's a very 778 00:39:46,399 --> 00:39:42,989 complex structure that requires geometry 779 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:46,409 okay much less a lot of muscle and sweat 780 00:39:54,199 --> 00:39:49,890 and and and to move and place these 781 00:39:57,499 --> 00:39:54,209 blocks in such precision and and they're 782 00:39:58,909 --> 00:39:57,509 still standing today you know thousands 783 00:40:00,380 --> 00:39:58,919 of years later you still have these 784 00:40:04,359 --> 00:40:00,390 structures that are standing that 785 00:40:07,699 --> 00:40:04,369 supposedly you know that ancient 786 00:40:09,380 --> 00:40:07,709 ancestors you know through slave labor 787 00:40:11,479 --> 00:40:09,390 or whatever we're able to put in place 788 00:40:14,569 --> 00:40:11,489 but there has never been a satisfactory 789 00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:14,579 explanation on how they move those 790 00:40:19,009 --> 00:40:16,079 blocks put them in place and for what 791 00:40:22,370 --> 00:40:19,019 purpose in all the precision cuts out of 792 00:40:24,620 --> 00:40:22,380 each object in circles you know perfect 793 00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:24,630 round circles built into stone I mean 794 00:40:32,089 --> 00:40:27,569 there is just no way oh are those what 795 00:40:34,939 --> 00:40:32,099 is it puku puku the toga you know the 796 00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:34,949 stones are so precision they're like 797 00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:38,880 Lincoln Logs they fit together yep yeah 798 00:40:45,439 --> 00:40:42,689 okay well you don't do that with a stone 799 00:40:51,799 --> 00:40:45,449 hammer and a piece of antler okay and 800 00:40:54,109 --> 00:40:51,809 chisel it out okay okay I mean no it it 801 00:40:57,229 --> 00:40:54,119 it doesn't work that way and when you 802 00:41:00,529 --> 00:40:57,239 have modern-day Masons that are that are 803 00:41:03,759 --> 00:41:00,539 at would have difficulty and duplicating 804 00:41:09,550 --> 00:41:03,769 those cuts using high-tech high-tech 805 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:15,040 I don't see that happening with with a 806 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:20,210 culture that basically did not 807 00:41:23,860 --> 00:41:22,370 understand geometry or didn't understand 808 00:41:29,950 --> 00:41:23,870 the wheel and the pulley or the Volk 809 00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:29,960 fulcrum I mean those are all knowledge 810 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:33,520 that we acquired in the last supposedly 811 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:36,050 okay in the last what five hundred years 812 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:38,690 and you were talking about civilization 813 00:41:44,110 --> 00:41:40,610 that were three to five thousand years 814 00:41:45,730 --> 00:41:44,120 ago maybe longer I know there's one 815 00:41:47,650 --> 00:41:45,740 archeologist as is finally coming 816 00:41:49,810 --> 00:41:47,660 forward and and he thinks that some of 817 00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:49,820 those rooms are way off data that 818 00:41:56,890 --> 00:41:52,910 they're much much much older than what 819 00:41:58,540 --> 00:41:56,900 mainstream is saying another current one 820 00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:58,550 to you can think of ken is the court the 821 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:01,280 coral castle two down in Don in Florida 822 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:04,130 I've been there all tell it tell me 823 00:42:07,810 --> 00:42:06,170 about it I want to go there that's it 824 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:07,820 that's on my bucket list that's 825 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:09,650 incredible and it what's really 826 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:11,690 interesting MJ is I tell you what I 827 00:42:20,020 --> 00:42:13,250 found fascinating is there's this 828 00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:20,030 massive massive door that is hinged okay 829 00:42:24,220 --> 00:42:22,310 and you can open them by just pushing on 830 00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:24,230 it with your little finger and you're 831 00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:27,200 talking about a door that weighs 50 60 832 00:42:33,850 --> 00:42:30,730 tons I mean it pivots and swings open 833 00:42:36,970 --> 00:42:33,860 now you're talking about a man one man 834 00:42:39,790 --> 00:42:36,980 did that by himself right and the 835 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:39,800 pictures i think he was Hungarian I mean 836 00:42:44,260 --> 00:42:42,890 he's he weighs 125 pounds soaking wet I 837 00:42:45,550 --> 00:42:44,270 mean I don't care if he looked like 838 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:45,560 Arnold Schwarzenegger he's not going to 839 00:42:52,090 --> 00:42:49,010 move it by himself right right okay and 840 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:52,100 yet no one knows how he did all this 841 00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:55,490 work at night nobody saw him moving the 842 00:43:00,100 --> 00:42:58,400 stones there isn't any record there's 843 00:43:02,470 --> 00:43:00,110 only a couple of photographs of him 844 00:43:05,860 --> 00:43:02,480 standing next to these blocks as he's as 845 00:43:09,940 --> 00:43:05,870 he's put him in place but no one has 846 00:43:12,130 --> 00:43:09,950 recorded how he moved him and in the 847 00:43:15,460 --> 00:43:12,140 precise alignment with the stars too I 848 00:43:18,940 --> 00:43:15,470 mean oh hey and he did yeah and and they 849 00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:18,950 were precision cuts do I mean these this 850 00:43:23,170 --> 00:43:22,880 wasn't haphazard and there is some type 851 00:43:25,780 --> 00:43:23,180 of 852 00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:25,790 vice located in that castle and in that 853 00:43:31,089 --> 00:43:28,880 in that area there that possibly maybe 854 00:43:32,620 --> 00:43:31,099 in the levitation device he used but no 855 00:43:35,500 --> 00:43:32,630 one really I don't think anybody's been 856 00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:35,510 in to figure it out well in in several 857 00:43:41,290 --> 00:43:37,520 of the photographs of him it shows a 858 00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:41,300 wooden tripod okay like a teepee and 859 00:43:46,299 --> 00:43:43,609 he's standing underneath of it and on 860 00:43:50,170 --> 00:43:46,309 top of this wooden tripod is a black box 861 00:43:52,180 --> 00:43:50,180 and in several of the photographs in and 862 00:43:54,549 --> 00:43:52,190 around these stones at black boxes 863 00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:54,559 visible and yet nobody knows what the 864 00:43:58,599 --> 00:43:56,960 black box was what it contained right or 865 00:44:00,430 --> 00:43:58,609 what the purpose of it was and nobody 866 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:00,440 found it after his death they don't know 867 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:03,770 where it went yeah American road warrior 868 00:44:09,220 --> 00:44:06,050 made a good point too I forget the name 869 00:44:11,530 --> 00:44:09,230 of the researcher that he he has been on 870 00:44:13,420 --> 00:44:11,540 a few shows on irn but they said that 871 00:44:15,549 --> 00:44:13,430 kids walking by would see stones 872 00:44:17,170 --> 00:44:15,559 levitating like from over the wall or 873 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:17,180 from beyond the wall looking them they'd 874 00:44:22,390 --> 00:44:19,130 see that see stones floating around so 875 00:44:23,950 --> 00:44:22,400 and and I heard stories from people that 876 00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:23,960 were in the area that at night they 877 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:27,200 would hear a low hum that there was a 878 00:44:35,980 --> 00:44:33,770 low hum and vibrations and and that then 879 00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:35,990 the next morning the the stones would 880 00:44:43,030 --> 00:44:37,569 have been moved and they were in place 881 00:44:45,339 --> 00:44:43,040 right so to listen to the rest of this 882 00:44:47,620 --> 00:44:45,349 interview please go to inception radio 883 00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:47,630 network com and register for the 884 00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:49,609 insider's club what is the insider's 885 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:51,710 club the insider's club is our premium 886 00:44:57,010 --> 00:44:54,290 content what you've just listened to now 887 00:44:59,859 --> 00:44:57,020 what you just listen to is a preview of 888 00:45:02,380 --> 00:44:59,869 that 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